Did patch just screw my secondary profession? - Guild Wars Forums

Eclectic · Jun 30, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28

So a couple days ago I changed my character's secondary from ranger to monk and played around with it a bit, mostly because of the problem with pets in later missions. However the patch fixed that and made me want to play my ranger secondary again. So I go to the town and I don't have the option to go back to ranger, only to elementalist, which is another secondary quest I finished but never changed to one. I go to all 3 towns and at the third I get the Ranger's Path quest. Now, wtf? I've unlocked almost all of the Ranger skills I wanted and I can't instantly change back? And if I do the Ranger quest, how do I know I wont have 4 starting spells and nothing else? Mind you, I've changed professions back and forth at will with my other character, so something seems seriously wrong. Anyone else seeing this problem, or am I just supposed to have to do the Ranger Path quest to get my original secondary back?

Jelloblimp · Jun 30, 2005, 11:34 PM // 23:34

You need to do the path quest for each job you are switching to (even if you had it before ascension).
There is no way of permanently deleting/forgetting known skills, so you will have all your ranger skills when choosing it again (after path quest).

Luggage · Jul 01, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03

And ranger path is a PITA

dbgtboy · Jul 01, 2005, 12:22 AM // 00:22

ranger path took me 2 hours to complete, and now it will take longer due to the new anti-bot mob that was put near the quest.

KvanCetre · Jul 01, 2005, 12:23 AM // 00:23

You should only have to complete the Path quests once(per character), after that, you're golden to switch to whatever, whenever.

Indigo · Jul 01, 2005, 01:17 AM // 01:17

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Originally Posted by KvanCetre

You should only have to complete the Path quests once(per character), after that, you're golden to switch to whatever, whenever.

What, at will? Is that once you've completed all of them?

MaglorD · Jul 01, 2005, 01:21 AM // 01:21

I think what he means is he didn't have to do the quest for his original profession before. When I switched from N/E to N/Me, I had to do the mesmer quest. However, when I switched back to N/E from N/Me, I didn't have to do the elem quest.

Seems they changed that with the new patch?

Narcissus · Jul 01, 2005, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Eclectic,

It has always been this way. When you complete the ranger path quest you can change back to your ranger secondary. You will be refunded all of the points that you placed in your monk secondary attribute lines as well as have all your old Ranger skills restored.

Also I will be upfront and say that the ranger secondary quest is absolutely a pain. But if you want, I can run you through it in about 15-20 mins with my monk and some henchies.

IGN: Lebeau The Pure

Narcissus · Jul 01, 2005, 01:25 AM // 01:25

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Originally Posted by MaglorD

I think what he means is he didn't have to do the quest for his original profession before. When I switched from N/E to N/Me, I had to do the mesmer quest. However, when I switched back to N/E from N/Me, I didn't have to do the elem quest.

Seems they changed that with the new patch?

It has always been this way. I change secondaries on all 3 of my characters religiously to meet the current needs of my Guild's PvP/Mission teams.

Drakron · Jul 01, 2005, 01:26 AM // 01:26

Ranger Path now needs to be played from a diferent place or you will serious get pissed off about it.

I did it recently with henchman so I give you the ropes.

Instead of just running out from Seeker's Passage go to Elona Reach and move out to Diviner's Ascent and go north then west until you reach the teleporter (reason is that Sand Drakes are fewer and not as anoying as the monster you face in Salt Flats) and then move to Salt Flats.

Now go north and west until you reach another transporter, use it and you end up in a place were the exist is a bit into the southwest (its stairs), its full of Storm Kin and devourers but they are not that many (worst is when getting out of the teleporter, they end up ambushing you there) and when you get out of the stairs you be near the target.

Now when I did it I simply stayed close to the wall and waited until the boss was alone, charged him and killed him ... if you watch for Kin patrols and wait you might have a open shoot at the boss without him having support from the other Storm Kin.

I tried the mission before the update by going strait to him from were I got the mission was ripped apart by the Storm Kin that hang around him, when I did this way its was far easier.

MaglorD · Jul 01, 2005, 02:07 AM // 02:07

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Originally Posted by Narcissus

It has always been this way. I change secondaries on all 3 of my characters religiously to meet the current needs of my Guild's PvP/Mission teams.

That's weird. Maybe when I switched my secondary and back, it was bugged then because I didn't have to do the elementalist quest to switch back from N/Me to N/E.

MaglorD · Jul 01, 2005, 02:16 AM // 02:16

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Originally Posted by Drakron

Instead of just running out from Seeker's Passage go to Elona Reach and move out to Diviner's Ascent and go north then west until you reach the teleporter (reason is that Sand Drakes are fewer and not as anoying as the monster you face in Salt Flats) and then move to Salt Flats.

So they added a lot of monsters to the Salt Flats. I had a hard time doing Ancient Secrets cuz the monsters kept chaining together. I was fighting a couple of jade spiders and some devourers and then more devourers popped up and then the storm kin joined in...utter madness. In the end, all my henchies died and I had to run the last mile solo and complete the quest.

I think they added more monsters to a couple of areas. Getting to Dunes is far more tedious than I can recall...lots of monster chains too. As well as the area outside Amnoon - Prophet's Path.

ICURADik · Jul 01, 2005, 02:51 AM // 02:51

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Originally Posted by MaglorD

That's weird. Maybe when I switched my secondary and back, it was bugged then because I didn't have to do the elementalist quest to switch back from N/Me to N/E.

The Elementalist quest is ridiculously easy. Maybe you did it without even noticing.

Eclectic · Jul 01, 2005, 03:55 AM // 03:55

This is confusing. My W/Mo did the Mesmer Path quest and switched to mesmer, then back to monk without having done the Path of the Monk quest, on this character. I had done it with my necro/ranger earlier, but hadn't made the switch. This is the only thing I can think of, otherwise my w/mo and the other guy's elementalist could switch back and forth without doing the quest with that character first, or doing it with one character works for all characters? Doesn't seem likely, but that's all I can think of.

What a pain. Having already switched back and forth, I never dreamed I'd have to do the Ranger Path to get back to my original secondary. You'd think doing 20 levels as one would mean I've already "walked the path".

Thanks for the offer, Lebeau The Pure. I might look you up.

Eclectic · Jul 01, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27

Well, I did it on my own, thanks for the advice of going from Elona. Still don't understand why one character could change right back while one couldn't.

Aristotle · Jul 01, 2005, 06:59 AM // 06:59

Wow, 2 hours for that quest it took me 10 mins tops well maybe 15 but thats it

Nightsorrow · Jul 01, 2005, 08:30 AM // 08:30

I also did the Ranger quest pretty quickly. I hid from the large kin patrol, once they were out of aggro range - charged in, beat the hell out of the boss and just continued to beat the crap out of it even when the patrol got back - got the kill, logged out, logged back in to get the reward.

-*Possible Spoiler*-

The Path that took me the longest to do what without a doubt - Monks Path. Just HOW many Jade Scarabs do you have to go through before you get to the Eater of Souls? I lost count.

Luggage · Jul 01, 2005, 10:45 AM // 10:45

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Originally Posted by Nightsorrow

I also did the Ranger quest pretty quickly. I hid from the large kin patrol, once they were out of aggro range - charged in, beat the hell out of the boss and just continued to beat the crap out of it even when the patrol got back - got the kill, logged out, logged back in to get the reward.

-*Possible Spoiler*-

The Path that took me the longest to do what without a doubt - Monks Path. Just HOW many Jade Scarabs do you have to go through before you get to the Eater of Souls? I lost count.

Instead of logging out I'd suggest just using the map to travel back to the village.

generik · Jul 01, 2005, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by Nightsorrow

I also did the Ranger quest pretty quickly. I hid from the large kin patrol, once they were out of aggro range - charged in, beat the hell out of the boss and just continued to beat the crap out of it even when the patrol got back - got the kill, logged out, logged back in to get the reward.

-*Possible Spoiler*-

The Path that took me the longest to do what without a doubt - Monks Path. Just HOW many Jade Scarabs do you have to go through before you get to the Eater of Souls? I lost count.

Ironically I find monk's path easier than ranger. Just did ranger for my 3rd ascended char, and usually I'd die once before nailing it.

Monk's path (especially for my ele) is easy!

Then again I had quite some practice killing those darned things having to walk around the desert getting my free armor

Jun 30, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#1
Eclectic Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	Did patch just screw my secondary profession? So a couple days ago I changed my character's secondary from ranger to monk and played around with it a bit, mostly because of the problem with pets in later missions. However the patch fixed that and made me want to play my ranger secondary again. So I go to the town and I don't have the option to go back to ranger, only to elementalist, which is another secondary quest I finished but never changed to one. I go to all 3 towns and at the third I get the Ranger's Path quest. Now, wtf? I've unlocked almost all of the Ranger skills I wanted and I can't instantly change back? And if I do the Ranger quest, how do I know I wont have 4 starting spells and nothing else? Mind you, I've changed professions back and forth at will with my other character, so something seems seriously wrong. Anyone else seeing this problem, or am I just supposed to have to do the Ranger Path quest to get my original secondary back?

Jul 01, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03	#3
Luggage Elite Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: sweden	And ranger path is a PITA __________________ "Stercus, stercus, stercus, moriturus sum."

Jun 30, 2005, 11:34 PM // 23:34	#2
Jelloblimp Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Guild: [KCHS] Profession: W/N	You need to do the path quest for each job you are switching to (even if you had it before ascension). There is no way of permanently deleting/forgetting known skills, so you will have all your ranger skills when choosing it again (after path quest).

Jul 01, 2005, 12:22 AM // 00:22	#4
dbgtboy Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: irl Guild: i quit playing	ranger path took me 2 hours to complete, and now it will take longer due to the new anti-bot mob that was put near the quest.

Jul 01, 2005, 12:23 AM // 00:23	#5
KvanCetre Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Madison Scouts Profession: E/Mo	You should only have to complete the Path quests once(per character), after that, you're golden to switch to whatever, whenever.

Jul 01, 2005, 01:21 AM // 01:21	#7
MaglorD Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005	I think what he means is he didn't have to do the quest for his original profession before. When I switched from N/E to N/Me, I had to do the mesmer quest. However, when I switched back to N/E from N/Me, I didn't have to do the elem quest. Seems they changed that with the new patch?

Jul 01, 2005, 01:23 AM // 01:23	#8
Narcissus Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Carolina, USA Guild: Evolution Profession: Me/A	Eclectic, It has always been this way. When you complete the ranger path quest you can change back to your ranger secondary. You will be refunded all of the points that you placed in your monk secondary attribute lines as well as have all your old Ranger skills restored. Also I will be upfront and say that the ranger secondary quest is absolutely a pain. But if you want, I can run you through it in about 15-20 mins with my monk and some henchies. IGN: Lebeau The Pure

Jul 01, 2005, 01:26 AM // 01:26	#10
Drakron Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Ranger Path now needs to be played from a diferent place or you will serious get pissed off about it. I did it recently with henchman so I give you the ropes. Instead of just running out from Seeker's Passage go to Elona Reach and move out to Diviner's Ascent and go north then west until you reach the teleporter (reason is that Sand Drakes are fewer and not as anoying as the monster you face in Salt Flats) and then move to Salt Flats. Now go north and west until you reach another transporter, use it and you end up in a place were the exist is a bit into the southwest (its stairs), its full of Storm Kin and devourers but they are not that many (worst is when getting out of the teleporter, they end up ambushing you there) and when you get out of the stairs you be near the target. Now when I did it I simply stayed close to the wall and waited until the boss was alone, charged him and killed him ... if you watch for Kin patrols and wait you might have a open shoot at the boss without him having support from the other Storm Kin. I tried the mission before the update by going strait to him from were I got the mission was ripped apart by the Storm Kin that hang around him, when I did this way its was far easier.

Jul 01, 2005, 03:55 AM // 03:55	#14
Eclectic Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	This is confusing. My W/Mo did the Mesmer Path quest and switched to mesmer, then back to monk without having done the Path of the Monk quest, on this character. I had done it with my necro/ranger earlier, but hadn't made the switch. This is the only thing I can think of, otherwise my w/mo and the other guy's elementalist could switch back and forth without doing the quest with that character first, or doing it with one character works for all characters? Doesn't seem likely, but that's all I can think of. What a pain. Having already switched back and forth, I never dreamed I'd have to do the Ranger Path to get back to my original secondary. You'd think doing 20 levels as one would mean I've already "walked the path". Thanks for the offer, Lebeau The Pure. I might look you up.

Jul 01, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27	#15
Eclectic Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	Well, I did it on my own, thanks for the advice of going from Elona. Still don't understand why one character could change right back while one couldn't.

Jul 01, 2005, 06:59 AM // 06:59	#16
Aristotle Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: Mo/R	Wow, 2 hours for that quest it took me 10 mins tops well maybe 15 but thats it

Jul 01, 2005, 08:30 AM // 08:30	#17
Nightsorrow Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Servants of Fortuna Profession: N/	I also did the Ranger quest pretty quickly. I hid from the large kin patrol, once they were out of aggro range - charged in, beat the hell out of the boss and just continued to beat the crap out of it even when the patrol got back - got the kill, logged out, logged back in to get the reward. -Possible Spoiler- The Path that took me the longest to do what without a doubt - Monks Path. Just HOW many Jade Scarabs do you have to go through before you get to the Eater of Souls? I lost count.